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Home arrow Josh Marshall arrow Amused, sad and bitter
Josh Marshall PDF Print E-mail
Amused, sad and bitter
Posted: 04/17/08 05:53 PM [ET]

In cases such as this I think it is always crucial to distinguish in our own minds between what we find offensive and what we’ve been conditioned to believe that others will find offensive. And perhaps even more importantly, what others will be able to twist and distort into something that other people will find offensive.

Each of those categories is important. But I find the exercise marvelously clarifying in thinking about how to understand these blow-ups when they happen.

In this case, I didn’t think what Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said was offensive. Of course, I don’t live in a small town or in rural America. But then again, neither do any of the other people I’ve heard sound off on this topic. So I’m in good company. (This has been one of the more comedic aspects of this 72 hours — watching a cavalcade of extremely wealthy pundits, editorialists and political operatives from New York and Washington tell me how rural Americans won’t stand for this.) My understanding is that Obama was answering a question from someone who planned to go canvass for him in Pennsylvania and what they should expect since it’s portrayed as being unfriendly ground for him. And what I understood him to be saying is that years of economic abandonment have left many communities in Middle America even more reliant on community, tradition, their religion, et cetera — and from a political standpoint, very protective of those things.

He said much the same thing on “The Charlie Rose Show” late in November of 2004. He said it more artfully, and in a way that was probably less apt to being spun out of control in a campaign echo-chamber.

So yes, he could have worded it better. Do I think it was offensive and condescending? No. I don’t. Do I think it can be spun into something offensive and condescending? Sure. That was obvious right off the bat. And how effective will it be against him or damaging to him? I’m not certain. From recent, bitter experience we all know of many instances where someone has been badly damaged politically for remarks that, while inoffensive or explainable, nonetheless get spun and eventually received in a damaging way.

What I do know is that this basic thought, often expressed in much less charitable ways, is commonplace in Democratic policy and political circles. And I have little doubt it’s been expressed many times by both of the Clintons and her advisers. So speaking for myself, I’ve spent too much time — over, what, 15 years now? — defending both Clintons from similarly ginned-up nonsense to have much energy left to help out as they pull the same puffed-up outrage act against another Democrat. I guess I’m just not feeling it.

With the Wright business and now with this, the more nuanced version of the Clinton line has been that what “we” think is not really the point. It’s what Republicans will do with it in the fall. And that’s a real concern that I definitely have. I won’t deny it. I’ve never thought Obama was a perfect candidate. But as we get deeper into the primary calendar, increasingly so, this “what the Republicans will do” line has become more of a simulacrum, or a license, if you will, to do what Republicans actually do do. That is to say, to grab for political advantage by peddling stereotypes about Democrats and liberals that are really no less offensive than the ones about small-town and rural Americans.

And seeing Hillary go on about how Obama has contempt for folks in small-town America, how he’s elitist, well ... no, it’s not because I think she is either. I never have. But after seeing her hit unfairly with just the same stuff for years, it just encapsulates the last three-plus months of her campaign, which I can only describe as a furious descent into nonsense and self-parody. Part of it makes me want to cry. But at this point all I can really do is laugh.

Marshall is editor of talkingpointsmemo.com .  His column appears in The Hill each week.   E-mail: This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it

 
 
 
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